On the question about “autochthonous ” and “not-local ” people in the context of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict

On the question about "autochthonous" and "not-local" people in the context of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict History has been and unfortunately remains one of the commonly used safe havens in which representatives of the parties of the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, usually far from the knowledge of basic laws of history, sometimes try to extract them with necessary arguments, links and other clues in favor of a solution model of interstate conflict. The essence of the conflict is utterly simple and obvious – the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh region of Azerbaijan and its affiliation (or, as now they say its “status”). In what plane should seek a solution to this conflict – legal or historical? What you should rely on determining the future status of the region – the fundamental documents of international law or these archaeological sites, migration routes, and all the annals of mankind?

In the absence of arguments from international law advocates redrawing the holy of holies the modern world – borders – often resort to arguments of a different nature, reducible to a primitive “you are not standing, and transferring the discussion to a completely irrelevant topic” autochthonous “and one” not-local ” other people. Lesson is usually meaningless, because in dealing with such knotty problems “historical information” (which by the order, you can easily make any flavor) is not taken into account, and eventually (not surprisingly!) Does not deal with intermediaries and international organizations nor the arbitration UN bodies.

The philosopher and jurist Louis Mnatsakanovich Karapetyan, argues that “Azerbaijani-Turkish hawks haunt” laurels “of his predecessors of nomadic to seize other countries, genocide and expulsion of peoples from their centuries-old ancestral territories, we have to disappoint “ancestral lands”, do not happen on the definition, a descendant of the tribe of nomads in particular is every one now living on the earth about 8 billion people, including – I do not judge us too severely – or yourself, with your “five thousand” tribe [1]! Armenians as an ethnic group – this is not Mount Agrı, rushed into the clouds as a result of tectonic processes in that part of the Earth and since then not move an inch either. They are part of humanity, which has its own history with the inherent laws of this science.

Like in Armenia to someone or not, the modern Armenians and Turks, Azerbaijanis, Indians and Pakistanis, Jews and Arabs, Serbs and Bosnian Muslims, Tutsis and Hutus, and other warring with each other peoples are genetically nearly homogeneous, with a common ancestor by the name of homo sapiens, first appeared on the light in the East African Great Lakes (not in Karabakh, and it is in Africa!) approximately half a million years ago and moving then to all other corners of the globe. Since then, humanity is in a state of permanent migration (nomadism, if you like) and will continue to migrate, and with even greater intensity in this age of scientific and technological progress. Let Professor Karapetyan, no doubt – it is not made of different stuff in his veins flows are not some special blood and the roots of his ancestors eventually go back into all the same East Africa.

In the “Artsakh”, too, when people went there, but not grown in the same straight from the earth like a centuries-old sycamore. And at the moment of arrival he was neither an Armenian nor Azerbaijani. At least, before the dinosaurs did not live in Karabakh, neither those nor the other, and any disputes about the autochthonous ones and others were forced to completely pointless and just unscientific, if not stupid! We are all descendants of the newcomers in any generation! And if drip deeper, or even cousins. So do not even know what to wish Mrs. Bella Kocharian, was conceived in the XXI century to establish a center of Yerevan transfusion side pot, which consists exclusively of Armenian blood. “In the Armenian blood are specific genetic factors, and Armenians should pour only the Armenian blood”, – said the former First Lady of Armenia, the wife of the author’s allegations of genetic incompatibility between Armenians and Azerbaijanis. Well, the flag in the hands of this family Csete in preserving “uniqueness” of the Armenian blood.

Inquire for some time now, and in some quarters, instead of nomadism form of management was seen as a sign of the backwardness of the people, and agriculture – on the contrary, as evidence of a higher degree of development, this approach is just a sign of misery and far Discussants from the knowledge of the basic laws of humanity creating a fertile ground for development in the future in his brain racist ideologies of exclusivity (even in comparative terms) of a nation. As is known, the choice of form of management is not determined by the structure of the human brain and not the whim or genes, and climatic conditions of the range of the resettlement community of people. After all, if the Middle Ages settled Krivichy field or moved from the black soil in the barren Kazakh or Mongolian steppes, which, besides the camel’s thorn did not really grow, survive them in such harsh conditions would have been only a shift towards a new form of management. And no additional brains of ex-farmers, growers and their architects could not save them! Migrates Proto-Armenians were farther to the east and they will arrive eventually to Chukotka instead of Anatolia, today their descendants are unlikely to produce cognac “Ararat”. And stay at the ancestors of the Paleo-Asiatic peoples of the Middle East, modern Chukchi and Koryak are unlikely to have been able to breed reindeer and hunt walrus on the bank of the Tigris and Euphrates. Determines the nature of the type of employment (at least until the arrival of high technology in our homes), but not so unscientific term such as “cultural nation”.

Similarly, it is not surprising that many of the nomadic people, who arrived on the fertile land, gradually began to settle and develop agriculture. And civilization (the concept, however, also a relative) is nothing to do with. Example – the Hungarians, the descendants of relatively recent Trans-Uralian nomads. Or Oguzes successfully grow today olives and citrus in Cyprus and throughout Anatolia. The ancestors settled Maya, Aztecs and Incas, too, once came to America from Eurasia via the Bering Strait, along with other American Indians are genetically traced back to the rest of the South Siberian Altai, Tuva, Khakasses and Shor (see IA Zakharov, “Central Asian origin of the ancestors of the first Americans», http://macroevolution.narod.ru/zaharov_indians.htm; IA Zakharov, U. N. Ondar, C. M. Dorzhu, “Genetic relationships Tuvinians with American Indians», http : / / www.kyrgyz.ru/?page=295).
Yes, all of them are the descendants of various peoples, including nomads. And what will be now? Should they be back? Does anyone try to challenge the borders of Hungary, referring to this fact from the distant history? In Azerbaijan and Armenia each considers its indigenous people in Karabakh, and the opposite side – the descendants of newcomers. Armenians call Azerbaijanis “nomads of the Altai, Azerbaijanis Armenians -” newcomers from Phrygia. In support of its arguments, each party brings a lot of historical evidence. However, exercise is known to be meaningless, because the Armenians and Azerbaijanis now live where they live. All! Borders were drawn and recognized by the international community. Good or bad – is no longer significant. They are what they are. In Armenia, many are unhappy with the Stalinist borders and would like to see their territory differently marked. In Azerbaijan, too many of those, who are not particularly enthusiastic about the same Stalin’s borders. Therefore, the essence of the Armenian-Azerbaijani compromise should be reduced to that in the XXI century borders must be recognized for what they have and then begin to work together on bringing down their values to the conventional level in the EU!

About 70 years ago in Europe, the river flowed in the blood and rearranged, with might and main pillars. Decade passed, heal the wounds of the world wars, and ethnic minorities in each European country have been, and remain. But often I think their representatives, to what specifically the Schengen countries and areas of the single European currency they live? Obviously, it is not every day. And this despite the fact that broad autonomy today, there are no Hungarians in Slovakia or France from the Germans or the Austrians in South Tyrol (Bolzano), nor from the Danes of German federal state of Schleswig-Holstein, or many other national minorities in the EU.

We recommend Karapetyan to start to see the interesting article by Lev Zhivotovsky and Elsa Khusnutdinova “The genetic history of humanity”, written at a fairly popular language:
http://macroevolution.narod.ru/zh_genhistory.pdf. It will help him to open his eyes to the many interesting aspects of anthropogenesis (process leading to the ethno genesis) and may move in search of solutions to the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict of bad historical context of political-legal [2].

As for the legal context, the questions raised by Karapetyan in his article were repeatedly given in numerous publications of the author of these lines. Therefore we will not repeat and send it to three recent articles: http://1news.az/analytics/20090427091357738.html. http://vugar-seidov.blogspot.com/2009/06/v-behaviorurldefaultvml-o_11.html http://day.az/news/politics/162531.html
[1] Concerning to the “five thousand years of history suggest, Karapetyan acquainted with the work I.M. Diyakonov” Prehistory of the Armenian people. History of the Armenian Highland from 1500 to 500 BC Hurrians, Lubian, Protoarmenians “/ Yeremyan ST. – Yerevan: Armenian SSR Academy of Sciences Publishing House, 1968. See also http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Этногенез_армян
[2] See also AP Derevianko, “Man goes on light,” Science First Hand. 2005. Number 1 (4). Cc. 18-26. http://macroevolution.narod.ru/derevjanko.htm
[3] On the claims of Armenians in the Indo-European heritage of Urartu his Indo-European population (Urartians, Hurrits and others) and see http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Урарту http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etnogenez_armyan

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